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Post by blazertaz13 on Sept 24, 2013 17:53:42 GMT -5
For the first time (at least for me), I want to try and start an association that all I really do is GM. This would be a departure from my normal playing style of managing every game. I was hoping to be able to get through seasons a little faster, so I can partake in more of the off season activities.
What I am asking for is any suggestions that you can give to get the most out of playing this way. I intend to start a 24 team fictional association in 2000, sim history for thirteen years (until 2013) and then take over a team. I would like to make this a long term association, so I am looking for suggestions to help get me involved with my team and the league as a whole. Eventually I would like to expand, but I will wait until that aspect of the game has been fixed.
One thing to note, I am not looking to fast sim once I takeover a team. I still expect that this association would move forward at a faster rate than I am used to. I also intend on keeping my other fictional league running as I can't forever give up managing the games.
I appreciate the suggestions ahead of time.
Thank you,
Taz
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Post by Oldtimer on Sept 24, 2013 19:22:29 GMT -5
The Only suggestion/s I could offer to you, are these steps ...
- Unattended Auto Play ...
- Run until a specific year (add 13 years to your start date) ...
- Fast simulation mode (to build up association very quickly, without seeing the story)
That is about what I have done for a year - quick sim, at a time ...
However, if you want to be involved with the drafting and such, then just sim to end of season ...
In the end, you'll find what stroke you want to use that is best suited for you and your League, when it come to Unattended Auto Play ... you may want to try out a month at a time to see what steps you really want to use in the long run ... every mate here may do things different ... just got to find what you like ...
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Post by blazertaz13 on Sept 24, 2013 19:54:34 GMT -5
Tomas, I understand the fast simulation to build history. What I as trying to get suggestions for is once I have my history how do sim players play out their simulations in order to keep involved in their associations. How do you get to know players on your team? Do you sim a day and then review what your team did or do you sim a week and then take a look?
Once again I do appreciate the suggestions.
Taz
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Post by Oldtimer on Sept 24, 2013 22:31:27 GMT -5
Taz ...
For me, I'm known as a Hybrid player ... I managed against teams that has, at least, a winning record ... and I sims against and under .499 records ... I studied their stats from the Statistics Report ... I utilized the Season Stats Browser, from top to bottom ... I look at the Almanac ... Sabermetrics Reports ... especially, the Add-ins ... this is pretty much how personal I get in knowing each of the players of each team and their defensive skills over the years ...
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Post by catknight on Sept 25, 2013 0:43:12 GMT -5
Personally I sim day by day, for about 1-2 weeks. IE- Sim Monday's game. Make no decisions, let the AI do its thing. Sim Tuesday's game, etc.
By going day by day, I at least pick up a hint of which way the team's headed. If something looks interesting maybe I'll take a look at a day's results, but a single game is too small a sample size for me to get much out of it.
After a few weeks, I'll take a hard look at the stats. I'll play with a few different combos (demote x, promote y), see what the AI would do to my lineup, and decide if that's desirable. Ditto with the pitching.
I try not to change my batting ROSTER until May at the earliest due to small sample size, pitching til mid-May/June. However, if someone is really stinking up the playing field, I'll make my move early.
Similarly, unless I identify a real gap, I'm not in the trade market until June...the FA market a little earlier, but I'm not expecting much of the FAs once the season begins.
I like to know by July 1st...July 10th at the most...if I think I have a chance at this year's pennant. That'll determine whether I trade for the 'last piece' or start looking for prospects, contract negotiations and so forth.
Oh, especially in Baseball Mogul I like to watch a few games here and there. The AI's in control, I'm just watching the action on the field. I'll do this alot in April, and maybe once per week as the season progresses. Again, this gives me a feel for who's doing well, and how my team is fitting together.
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Post by Oldtimer on Sept 25, 2013 6:36:21 GMT -5
Hmmm ... has the BM improved, since it released? ... or rather did it get corrected, with patches, to be better and solid than ever ... you know me, Cat ...
Sound like the standard setting for simming, as well, mate ...
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Post by prisonerno6 on Sept 25, 2013 8:18:54 GMT -5
Off Topic but interesting
This past Summer I decided to take the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers Buck Rodgers and Harvey Kuenn thing and do a What If? scenario.
If you do not know the history, here it is in a nutshell - On June 2, with the team struggling to a 23-24 record to start the season, Dalton fired Rodgers and named Kuenn to replace him. Kuenn would finally get the opportunity he had dreamed of since the 1958 Tigers considered him as a possible player-manager. After the firing, Rodgers was quoted as saying his firing was the result of some cancers on the team. Several players on the club did not like Rodgers’ managerial style. Some of his biggest critics were thought to be Fingers, catcher Ted Simmons, and center fielder Gorman Thomas. Immediately after his hiring, Kuenn held a team meeting and told the players just to go out and have fun. The team seemed to loosen up. He set the batting order and rarely changed it. He seemed to trust his pitchers more than Rodgers did. As a result, the team began to play better baseball. After going 23-24 under Rodgers, the team suddenly took off and went 20-7 in June, hitting an unbelievable .294 as a team. They also hit 47 home runs in those 27 games and averaged over six and a half runs a game. Whatever the reason, the players responded to Kuenn the way Dalton had hoped they would when he hired him. The Brewers went 72-43 under Kuenn to finish with 95 wins.
Anyway...
I ran Two (2) leagues with the exact setup but different Management Styles (Rodgers vs Kuenn). One League where I would manage each game and make changes throughout the game (think of it as always trying to win each season series - pinch hit more, bring in relievers earlier, line-up changes, etc.) and the other League in which I would manage each game but let the players play for a time before making any decisions or changes.
Well, in the end, the Micro-Managed Rodgers team did not do too well, finishing 81-81, while the Laid Back Managed Kuenn team finished 98-64.
What was funny to me is that I had one player in particular (power hitter, great defensive skills, no hitting ability...okay, it was Gorman Thomas) who in the Micro-Managed League, I kept pinch-hitting for and sitting due to the fact that he never could get his batting average over .182 and by season's end he ended up batting .172 with 22 homeruns and 68 rbis (in 112 games). While in the Laid Back League, I let the same player stay in the line-up (to work things out) and he ended up batting .278 with 55 homeruns and 142 rbis (in 151 games).
What is my point? No point really, well maybe, I guess it really all does depend on what type of Simming you do that will determine your Team's success...
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Post by Oldtimer on Sept 25, 2013 9:00:17 GMT -5
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Post by prisonerno6 on Sept 25, 2013 10:29:02 GMT -5
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Post by Oldtimer on Sept 25, 2013 10:43:43 GMT -5
Actually, it is really a great idea ... I have never done two similar leagues with me, as manager and the AI, as manager ... there should be no trades, no injuries (in fairness) - just go with that ... and see who's better ...
Curious, though, how did the other players do between your managing and the AI's - on your team ... also, were there any discrepancies between two leagues - in regards to stats, standing, ect. ...
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Post by blazertaz13 on Sept 25, 2013 11:02:46 GMT -5
Interesting results Prisonerno6. I always wondered if my decision making was a detriment to my team. :-)
Well I am going to try simming day by day and watch my team's games each day. I am still not sure how to deal with the day to day line ups (let AI set) or I set and just the AI manage the game. I am sure it will come to me as I get started. As for the actual personnel decisions, I will keep to my normal method of improving my teams. I usually build through the draft and then supplement with veterans where needed. I usually go through the first month of the season without making any changes as I want to give players a chance work through early season issues. I just hoping that I will be able to feel an attachment to my team/league and that by only GMing I will be able to get through more seasons.
One last question, when you are looking at signing a player do you look more at stats or do you strictly look a player's ratings or is it a combination of both?
Thanks for the suggestions.
Taz
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Post by prisonerno6 on Sept 25, 2013 11:56:50 GMT -5
What I did was setup the 1982 Season with Actual Starting Line-Ups. That way all other teams will atleast have the same line-ups at the beginning of each game in both leagues. I took control of the Brewers.
Micro-Manage Stats AL East Winner - Baltimore Orioles 107-55 AL West Winner - California Angels 109-53 AL Champ - California Angels MVP - Eddie Murray Cy Young - Jim Palmer NL East Winner - St. Louis Cardinals 94-68 AL West Winner - Los Angeles Dodgers 93-69 NL Champ - Los Angeles Dodgers MVP - Pedro Guerrero Cy Young - Joaquin Andujar World Series Champ - California Angels
Brewer Stats of Note Name AVG HR RBI Name W L ERA Ted Simmons .252 22 79 Mike Caldwell 14 19 4.14 Cecil Cooper .278 32 88 Pete Vuckovich 15 18 3.53 Robin Yount .289 27 91 Don Sutton 6 7 3.89 Paul Molitor .259 7 55 Rollie Fingers 1 12 2.91 27 Saves
Laid Back Stats AL East Winner - Milwaukee Brewers 98-64 AL West Winner - California Angels 113-49 AL Champ - California Angels MVP - Cecil Cooper Cy Young - Pete Vuckovich NL East Winner - Montreal Expos 102-60 AL West Winner - Atlanta Braves 84-78 NL Champ - Montreal Expos MVP - Mike Schmidt Cy Young - Steve Rogers World Series Champ - California Angels
Brewer Stats of Note Name AVG HR RBI Name W L ERA Ted Simmons .293 44 112 Mike Caldwell 23 8 3.44 Cecil Cooper .331 53 154 Pete Vuckovich 28 6 2.93 Robin Yount .319 43 131 Don Sutton 10 3 3.42 Paul Molitor .303 16 67 Rollie Fingers 5 5 1.74 58 Saves
Note - this post was created during a business meeting...
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Post by Oldtimer on Sept 25, 2013 12:50:14 GMT -5
Wow ... Night and day with your team, between the two ... is this the norm?? ... have you tried it again with the AI's running the show ...
LMAOROTF regarding to your business meeting : wonder if the team knew ...
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Post by markvacc1 on Sept 26, 2013 10:19:53 GMT -5
Only two things about BM that I think are better than PS and that is it will sim an entire season extremely fast and some of the injuries are bad enough that a player or pitcher got hurt in May and was out until mid April the following year. In my recent attempt at M/GM the Rangers starting in 72, I increased the injuries to 300 for both and it seems to be a little better than the 250. So far, there have been 4 or 5 guys MLB wide that have gone to the DL by the 3rd week of the season, one for 5 1/2 weeks. One is mine, C Hal King was for 10 days and my house rule is 10+ is DL bound, one player for four days and one P for eight days, which he seemed to have healed in two. Wasn't as bad as they first thought. I chalk those up to being cautious and not risking a worse injury had they left him in the game. If not satisfied by the end of April, I will increase it again probably to 350. It seems every year, every team has several players/pitcher's on the various levels of the DL.
This time, I didn't go with alternate reality, opting instead for the reality of the several seasons of the time period. Talk about a difference. My whole pitching staff, save for one RP stinks worse than a dead skunk in a manure pile. Half my starting lineup is hitting less than 200, a couple barely above 200, onw around 280 and one around 320. I'm going to try top build by my previous house rules of the draft and 1 to 3 FAs, where at least one has to be a player and one a pitcher, the other only if I have a pressing need and a shortage of that particular position. Trades will be for those that don't re-sign or if my team loses moneya dn I have to go for some salary dumps or I just get a really good offer, which I have yet to get ever.
I can't say it enough, first and foremost, keep this game user friendly and keep adding some of the ideas and new seasons as they come along and I see nobody being able to top this sim in my lifetime. I really would still like to see the option of 100 man rosters with the minors separating back to the three separate columns and position assignments to be filled so one cannot try and monopolize any position by stockpiling, plus it looks real and way better than the Baseball Mogul look it has now.
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Post by Oldtimer on Sept 26, 2013 10:31:03 GMT -5
And don't forget PureSim Challenge mode option, in which, we can get fired by one and hired by another team ... this way, this League can continue - forever ...
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